I was just about to say I also remember a couple of different threads where people had requested for Holly to model here. Those pictures above have been safely saved on my laptop ever since I first found them in that thread. I actually have Holly Jay and most of her follow Maxxis Babes as friends on my Facebook account. They will usually accept your friend requests providing they haven't hit the limit that Facebook allows.
The Maxxis Babes used to have their own website but for some reason it was removed in 2015. The website is still available to browse HERE on the Wayback Machine, but a lot of the pictures don't load anymore which is a shame. Each model had their own photo gallery with pictures of them in Maxxis uniform. They also had calendar wallpapers that you could download and use on your PC. Suffice to say, in my mind it was like the best website ever invented... Thankfully I managed to save all that stuff before the website went down.
Ha ha, no, I'm in the USA... i've just picked up on a lot of the UK topics and way of writing/speaking from so long on this forum. I have been to the UK a few times before though.
YES though to Giorgia and Holly Jay... both are so gorgeous...
also, big shame too when Nickie-Ann had all of her pics taken down from all of these sites ! She was one of the few girls who really did delete all her content here... Amazingly though, I think it's happened much less than you might imagine where a girl wants all her stuff taken down. I remember I thought that that Imogen/Simone Linsell was another very attractive one who had all her stuff removed...
As far as the current Grid-Girls go, I really love HER... She is so amazing and definitely one of the best models here right now.
(btw, now that I've mentioned Naomi, it may not be long before penguin chimes in here too)...
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Talking of grid girls here reminds me of all the other lovely promotional models involved with motor sport we have requested in the past over on the members forums like, Sarah Widdowson, Michelle Westby and Jessika Boulton. Just a shame OAS werent able to persuade any of them to shoot for the brand although Sarah did originally accept a shoot/booking invitation but then got cold feet and cancelled her debut shoot.
^ Does seem like OAS has had a harder time than not getting a lot of the Grid-girls in to shoot regularly. Now that I think about it, it seems to me like when a girl is doing a lot of the real full-time grid girl work it is hard for them to shoot very regularly here.... (Naomi M I think being a big exception at present). The last few years, I think Stephanie W only shot or was even booked to shoot in the fall or winter months.
Also, Danielle A was a motocross grid girl for awhile !!
And my lovely Sarah E was with Monster Energy girls of Europe, about the time she had her last shoots here... So gorgeous ! She fit right in with these...
- far left...
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@IC Yes, that's unfortunate how Sarah backed out of her shoot because she would've been amazing on OAS. Much like Holly, she has only done a very limited amount of topless stuff in the past. I know she started doing webcam shows on Glamour Stars Live and although her profile on there doesn't show her as available for topless or nude teases, she has clearly been willing to do them in the past because there are some videos lurking around on Anon-V that prove otherwise.
I had the chance to meet Jessika Boulton along with Laura McBride at Silverstone in 2014. They were both lovely and offered me the opportunity for a picture taken with them. I remember seeing Jessika on a TV programme shortly afterwards with her Pomeranian. I think the show was called 'The Secret Life of Pets' and it was on Channel 5, she uploaded the segment to her YouTube channel and it should still be there. Unfortunately this is just about the most revealing picture I have seen of Jessika:
I also believe that at the time OAS were also not really managing to persuade many of the promotional models (who on the whole tend to be non-topless), to come to OAS to shoot for the brand as min requirement of topless probably put a lot of them off. Of course there were exceptions for non-topless models like Loora (but she never worked as a model prior to coming to OAS), so I think the culture at the time and difference between glamour/Page3/lads mags models and promotional/grid girl models was not conducive to OAS at that time in being able to get them on board.
Also, as previously mentioned the fact that the grid girls regularly appear at LIVE events and are recognisable and approachable creates an issue for some of them and a conflict of interests re privacy and other work commitments. Most promotional models are part-time and have 'normal' day jobs that allow them to fit their grid girl work (mainly weekends) into their schedules. OAS primarily shoot weekdays when most promo models are at work in their normal occupations, although in more recent times OAS have accommodated a few popular regulars like Abigail B and Jo E to shoot over a weekend.
I think once a model does a debut shoot and OAS are able to assess their impact and popularity with the membership they are more flexible with future shoots with them, including ocassionally doing weekend shoots if they want them to continue shooting for the brand, but for models that have NEVER shot for the brand there are fewer options offered.
There are lots of trade-offs and compromises that have to be made on both sides from both the models and the OAS Bookers to make some shoots work and maybe it is just easier for them to book models via an agency that can provide models that are generally available Monday-Fridays for shoots, I think that is why they use agancies like GirlManagement (GM) and similar a lot of the time but I am sure they are probably looking back over the last 12 months or so to see if there is anyway they can improve the whole booking process and minimise cancellations, no shows, and find new channels from which models can potentially be booked from.
@Hanotaux I was also disappointed when Nickie Ann had her photosets removed from OAS because she has always been my all-time favourite by a country mile! I'm not sure what her reasons were for having the content removed but I know around the time she went very 'private' on social media and deactivated her Facebook and Twitter accounts. So maybe something happened that caused her to become concerned about her privacy. I always thought it was unusual how her pictures and videos remained on the Playboy Plus website, as those would get far more exposure than what her content on OAS would have and surely would be a bigger priority to have removed. It made me wonder whether she specifically contacted OAS and requested for her photosets to be deleted, or if OAS instead contacted her in regards to arranging another shoot and it was more of an on the spot decision without much thought given beforehand. I respect her desicion wholeheartedly whatever the reason might have been.
'Tis a shame though because it would've been great to see Nickie return in a wider variety of outfits. I loved all of her old pictures, especially the ones in the school and scout uniforms! Plus, all the latest sets have the slight advantage now of being in UHQ resolution and against the new backdrops. I had hoped she would do a shoot with Amy Green and even made a thread on here once suggesting the idea. It wouldn't have been far fetched at all since they're best friends having been in the Maxxis Babes with each other for several years, and have already done shoots outside of OAS together with multiple photographers!
The thought of them instead doing a trio-shoot with Holly Jay is almost enough to make me faint.
^ GULP, indeed !!... I also really like Amy Green too. She's so nice and had a comeback shoot this year, although it was not at the studio and instead at a different location ! Amy has always been one of my favorite girls here as well. I'd really like if they could get her back in for a regular studio shoot (with customs offered of course)...
Not sure exactly why Nickie had all her sets pulled down although it was probably generally for all those reasons you described. My guess is too that OAS is/was far more accommodating and reasonable for something like this and taking down sets, as opposed to something like Playboy which probably left the stuff up. Or, Playboy is more "prestigious" so she didn't mind that content out there, while OAS is more niche stuff and not really the type of thing girls use for glamour-portfolios and resumes and stuff like this.
My understanding is that a lot of girls and models dont' really like OAS and won't work here because it's not classic "glamour", and to them the tights stuff is very fetishistic and not good to use for their portfolios, or stuff they want out there.
Jo S was another of my past favorites who had all her stuff taken down from the public area, but all her sets are still up in the members'...
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I guess if your laptop or hard-drive goes bust and you lose all your sets you've downloaded and haven't saved them...
I think it's also a bit nicer and more convenient just to look at the sets right off the site, if you can. I like this a whole lot better than having to sort through a lot of zip files and downloads and having to look forever for the exact picture you want, or not knowing exactly what image you'll get.
I usually save and download all my favorite sets and videos though. I keep my permanent membership though so I don't immediately go all out to try and permanently save and download everything I like !
@Rick2 I should just clarify that for me it isn't necessarily disappointment about the sets being removed (Because like you said, it wouldn't matter if the photosets are already downloaded and stored on your computer!) but more disappointment that the models such as Nickie Ann who have had their sets removed would be extremely unlikely to return again in the future. I regret not posting my idea of her having a shoot with Amy Green sooner, because I genuinely think it could have happened had she not decided to leave and have her photosets pulled from the site.
@Hanotaux You make some good points there of which I had not thought about before! I suspect trying to get photos removed from Playboy would indeed be more difficult than it would from OAS as you said. And it probably does depend on how lenient and co-operative they want to be, although I think due to the nature of the content if the model requests for the pictures to be removed that's what should happen for their own privacy. I also agree that Playboy would almost certainly considered a more reputable site and so that could be a potential reason as to why she did not have her pictures removed from there. But she still has stuff on CollegeUniform and that's a similar site to OAS with pictures that would perhaps not be best suited for portfolio-type content. But I suppose the difference there is that the OAS pictures are a lot easier to find on Google Images than what the CU stuff might otherwise be.
I did see the photosets from Amy Green's shoot in August 2017 that you spoke about. It definately makes a interesting change seeing them done in a different environment, but for me I would have preferred it to have been done back at the OAS studio where there's perhaps a better setup for getting quality pictures. Let's just hope OAS will be able to successfully arrange another studio shoot with her sometime in the near future!
^ Hopefully... Amy is a full-time photographer these days so her time is probably a bit limited ! She's based a bit up north too, hence why the shoot was probably on location and not at the OAS studio...
I'd love to see her back though if at all possible. She was booked for a 2-day studio shoot in February of this year (which I think I had a custom for), but then she cancelled..." alt="" src="/images/smiley/msn/cry_smile.gif" style="height:19px; width:19px" /> Still though, any and all getting her back in is most welcome ... I'm glad they were at least able to shoot her off-location this summer, and the 18th-century settings for her sets looked awesome !
If you have a permanent membership , you're using the OT sites as your personal "cloud backup" for the sites' sets with easy access . We all don't have that luxury. I have a minimal of 3 backups . Just the other week an old one failed , I didn't lose anything ... but some time to fill a new HDD.
@ Anonymous : It is extremely unlikely that some of the best that still have their sets available , will come back , so no guaranty there.
I think Amy Green's Aug sets were not shot by the 2 OAS photographers . They deliver the same quality at the house or when they do a tease@home , and Amy's were somewhat below their usual quality.
I'm honestly pretty lazy when it comes to a lot of things with OAS... downloading and backing up sets, voting on galleries, voting for MOTY and NOTY, etc. Mostly because I keep a permanent account is why I'm somewhat lazy about making sure I download absolutely everything. The sites are pretty much my Cloud backup...
I also keep the permanent account though just because I do so many things like customs I have planned months in advance... PFTs, FTs, forum preferences, saved customs. There's no way or reason I think I'd cancel for any period of time. The new shoots also keep coming too fast and there's no period of time when there aren't ever any models I Iike shooting.
I find that all things considered, it's the most economical to keep the permanent OAS account. If you do regular customs, I think you pretty much have to keep your account up
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I used to keep regular backups of my OAS stuff on an external HDD, but I needed to make room for something relatively unimportant several months ago and just ended up deleting the backup entirely to create space. I haven't bothered to make another one since, and had a close call just a few weeks ago when I almost lost everything whilst attempting to reinstall Windows. Of course it's not just content downloaded from OAS but any other pictures you might have collected over the years as well.
I myself have a vast collection of pictures and videos from all of my favourite models. The reason I chose to download all this stuff is because eventually pictures can just disappear from the internet; whether that be caused by image hosts shutting down, websites closing entirely or even intentionally being deleted. Just look at any models thread on an adult forum and you'll see loads of dead links where pictures have vanished for one of these reasons. I only started getting into following certain models around 2012 when I began attending more car shows and seeing them in real life. It does irritate me to think about content I missed out on before that, since a lot of my favourite models had been modelling a few years beforehand.
@Mick2 I do agree that Amy Green's sets from August were almost certainly done by a different photographer. I didn't like those sets as much because a lot of the shots were quite distant. My preference tends to be with the close-up shots where you just see the model from the waist upwards, although I certainly don't mind the full-length shots as well for models like Nickie who benefit from lovely legs and a nice backside.
Is it possible for non-members on the OAS forum to edit posts at all? I don't see a button anywhere that would allow me to do this.
@ Anonymous : Why delete the entire backup ? A small 1 or 2 TB ext drive is cheap. Your preference is close-up shots from the waist up ? I guess you're not a leg/feet guy . I tend to think of OAS being a nylon site , so that's legs, legs, legs ! But I get that you're more interested in the model than what she's wearing.
No edit on the public side. It's not on Ben's priority list. We can't complain , the public forum is already very good for us "outsiders".
I'm not worried about any of that stuff with OAS for the immediate future, at least not for several years. These sites are still active, very stable, expanding into two new sites, and on-the-whole show no signs of slowing down. Some of those other links are also from affiliates and stuff that might expire, but on the whole when it comes to these main sites and them sticking around, I'm not concered at all at present.
Even if OAS does shut down or actively stops shooting and expanding (God forbid), I think it's overwhelmingly likely that the archive of the site will stay up and you'll still be able to subscribe to it, and the owners will keep making money from the shell of the site even after they retire !! I think it would be the kind of thing like OnlyMelanie and OnlyCarla at present, where you can still subscribe to them and join and get all the content, but the sites themselves haven't been updated for nearly a decade. With OAS at this point in this scenario I think it would be something similar where the site would be up for decades and you could still join any time to get the stuff. I think the Internet too is much bigger and more stable now and stuff isn't disappearing willy-nilly like it would have 10 or 15 years or so ago.
These sites are also the best out there by a lot and the only thing out there that's any good with tights. I think these are two other huge points in these sites sticking around. I think OAS also employs about 2-dozen people and it's a very profitable business, and something way past the point of folding overnight. I think it's also backed up on multiple different servers and not going to disappear if one server suddenly completely goes down.
The only thing i can see being a problem is if OAS ever does something like inadvertently shoot the "wrong type" of model and attention gets called to this, or for some reason this draws the ire of the feminazis or whatnot. On the whole though, I see nothing menacing in the future that would necessitate making sure you download absolutely everything. They also give a lot of warning before a model is about to go off-line here and have all her stuff deleted.
"And the owners will keep making money from the shell of the site even after they retire" ... and that kind of bothers me . My "source" says models don't get any royalties , so it makes sense that a model gets her sets removed ( after a while) , while others have them up forever , not getting any benefits from it while the site owners get the cash. Carla and Melanie have a better deal with their own sites. It bothers IC that the modelling world is changing into models selling their own stuff via their own sites/social media , but that makes a lot more sense from their POV.
I wouldn't call it the only thing out there that's any good with tights , there are more , but OAS sure has quality and the quantity and yes maybe the most known models and a lot to choose from. Employ two dozen people ? Didn't know that there are so many ! What do they all do ?
What do you mean with the "wrong type" of model ? Do they give a lot of warning before a model is about to go off-line ... not on the outside.
I think it makes more sense in the long-run not to pay the models royalties from their shoots here.... It would be wayyy too much effort and cost a lot to keep writing every single girl who has ever shot here a check every single month, and keep tracking them all down and making sure they get paid. The models here make a lot each shoot anyway to where it's well worth it (from what I know). I think the royalty thing makes a lot more sense though for girls like Hayley-Marie who have had success with their own franchise sites and thus really are going to stick around for the long-term to benefit from their work in the long-haul.
This is also by far the best site I've ever seen with tights (though I have seen others)... this is just the best far-and-away though with the quality of photography, the customs offered, realistic outfits, top girls, etc. I have looked at a couple other sites like college-uniform.com and Zoligirls, but honestly nothing else I've ever seen holds a candle to OAS ! Honestly though, I've been so engaged with OAS over the last several years or so, that I really don't seek out much tights stuff elsewhere so there my be other good new sites that have emerged but I just haven't seen them yet. I don't think anything is going to take over from OAS though, at least not with me.
As far as the "wrong type of model" goes, I'm just saying if some type of situation happened where a girl who wasn't ready to shoot here yet got her way into the studio with a fake ID and sets went up of her, and word got out of it and OAS got in trouble... This is the kind of thing I could see happening that gets these sites in trouble (but let's hope not)... From what I know, OAS does very strict ID checks and makes sure several times over that every model is old enough to shoot here. i also think OAS has very rarely shot a new model under 20 either... exceptions being girls like Kara Carter, Alegra Thomas, etc, who were very much "sure things." Most of the new girls are usually at least in the early 20's range and sent by a known agency before they debut here !
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as far as the 2 dozen employees go... there are 2 or 3 photographers, the owner, a few tech-support guys, Kara the stylist, Amber and Amy who do stuff with processing the sets and the forums, and I also think about 10 other tech guys (maybe more) who just do various roles we don't really know about like stuff with the pay-processing and what not. It's a full-staff and a full-time operation running these sites. This is why I say OAS is way past the point of just folding overnight, unlike some other new site that may have just been a small startup and one guy trying to do amateur photography in his basement, or something like this !
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Sorry , but I strongly disagree about the royalties . Why should a models that is in big demand with lots more downloads get the same as a model that doesn't ? Why would a model that has been an attaction to the site for 10 years or more get the same as a newbe ? Everything is computerised , it wouldn't take much to keep score and send a yearly check or bank transfer. The models would keep in touch because they want that money , so no worries keeping track of them. So not much effort .
These days I don't look that much at other sites like I used to , OAS fills my needs . For porn in pantyhose though ... I go looking !
Would it be such a faux pas if OAS had a 17 year old modelling ?
Jeez , they need a lot of tech support guys , must be from running W10 . Pay processing is done by those payment companies. I think you're way off with two dozen . Maybe one dozen incl the cleaners at the house .
There's pay-processing though with stuff like paying the models, and managing memberships. The OAS staff is quite substantial. I think it is about 25 or so for a big variety of tasks.
As far as the royalties go, I wouldn't care one way or the other if this is how OAS decided to go. I probably shouldn't say this here, but I think even about 7 years ago the rate was on average 700 pounds per model for a shoot, which is over 1000 US dollars. I also do think that some models get paid more than others depending perhaps on how in-demand they are, what agency they were booked from, or how hard it was to book them. I think when Melissa Debling had her final shoot here she was paid quite a bit because there was a big clamour for her to come back. I think though the girls are definitely well-paid for each shoot to the point where it sort of makes up for the royalties. OAS might also lose out a lot more in the long-run by having to fund a system of royalty payments that get bigger and bigger, and thus might not be able to shoot as much content, as opposed to just an easy one-time payment that is over with and settled once paid out.
i think overall though it's very fair and the models are well-paid for what they do ! I think it's also fairly subjective as to which models are more or less in demand as well so it would be hard to arbitrarily determine rates for each girl in an equitable way. I think the average new model though gets the typical rate of several hundred quid per day, which is very well worth it, IMO ! Lots of times too I think the prospective new models name their price, and if they don't like the rate OAS offered than they won't shoot or will negotiate.
I also think it would definitely be a major faux pass if OAS shot a girl who wasn't old enough yet and the wrong people found out about it in this day and age, especially when everything gets blown way out of proportion and there are such drastic consequences and the public trashing on social-media like there is that goes on for situations like these. I think that this scenario actually happening is pretty unlikely as OAS is very thorough, and almost never books a model who would even be on the cusp of someting like this. If it did happen though, I could see the backlash from something like the online morality police being fairly devastating, not to mention from the law if it wasn't caught ! On the whole though, I'm not worried by anything at present or any trend with these sites putting this franchise in serious jeopardy.
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I'm a bit surprised you don't care about payment since you spend A LOT on customs. Your membership fee dwarfs your customs ( @ 95 $ a piece ! ). I hope Paul doesn't read this , but according again to my source , models get 0 , yes zero of your 95$ for your custom. OAS doesn't like us to talk about money , so they better stop reading here. Most models have 4 customs , so that's half their day paid not by OAS but the custom guys ( or galls, who knows).
Fees for models are very well known , I 'm not revealing secrets here : Most pro models have a website , or are on a model agency site that lists their rates . 30-45 GBP/hour depending on the model , min 2 hours , reductions for a whole day , around 800 GBP. Yes that is a good pay ... unless you count taxes and transport which is not always compensated . But here's the part I don't understand :
If a private person hires the model for a day and keeps his pics/video's private or in a closed group, he/she pays the same as a website (like OAS) , that earns and keeps earning money/profits on the 1 or 2 day work of the model . The model just gets paid once to pose/expose herself, gets viewed by not 1 person or small group , but thousands or who knows millions ( internet leaks) ! Something very out of wack with that.
I don't think the models have to do any more work though because of customs. It's OAS that has to go out of it's way to get the outfits and props together that make the customs happen.
When it comes to the royalties, like I said, the simple answer is just to have a one-time payment to each girl and then the account is settled for that given day's work. I think this is by far the best and easiest way. If OAS always had to keep paying out endless royalties to the growing group of models, this would be more problematic and get more burdensome as time goes on. Also, if OAS shut down actively shooting but still had to pay royalties to all the models that had ever shot, it probably couldn't exist as just an archive site like OM or OC if it was still obligated to make all these payments. It's best to just pay a little more for each shoot but then have it be one-and-done.
I also think too that it's not like the models aren't making a lot of money already for each shoot, and it's not like they're getting shafted or anything to where this is really a concern. The models know what they are getting into when they sign the contract to agree to a shoot here; that the pictures will go up, hence why they get paid so well. I don't think there's anything about it that is really unfair.
Also, it's been said officially about the customs that having them and people purchasing them makes the membership lower for OAS members across the board. Like I said, it's mostly OAS that puts in the effort to doing and running the custom system so the peyment goes to them and not the models. Maybe it would be fair though to give each model perhaps 30% or so for each custom bought for them, since they're likely doing a pretty "niche" outfit that they might not normally do with each one of these. Models can turn down a custom though if they don't like what was picked out for them.
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Well IF it lowers the membership fee for all members , then thanks Hanotaux , Skie, Penguin and the others I don't know. Still 95 $ to get some clothes out of the room-closets that Kara has to do anyway , well ... Many of the customs are really just the same as when Kara picks them out ( and sometimes that long walk to get that space hopper from sublevel 3 basement ).
As to the royalties , lets agree to disagree . Royalties could be limited to a certain time period ( 10 years) or certain number of downloads , so it wouldn't be endless. Even if OAS shutdown to an archive site they still be making money . But to come full circle back to the grid girls . If I were them , why would I want to pose nearly naked , when I get better pay in a non too revealing outfit , being a grid or motorsport babe that everyone looks up to , and where you get more exposure/fame with a larger public. As well as all IC has written here about the changes in the model world , where through technology they can have a fairer payout , and less people profiting off her work.
Of course any boss profits from his employee's work , just regular work is different than exposing your yummy parts to potentially millions ( of wankers).